STUDY NOTES POST #8: RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN SOJT AND THE ENNEAGRAM, ATTIDUINAL PSYCHE AND PSYCHOSOPHY PART 5
Finally, we've made it. Now we are to the myth busters section! This is probably the part those of you who are not part of the Personality Database fan club have been waiting for. Here's the Personality Database and Tik Tok myths I have debunked , as well as thinks Afansayev, Rob Zeke and others believed, that my experiment proved are not the case. Mind you, a lot of typology creators do not have good knowledge of other typology systems, and have their biases and make mistakes.
Even, as much as I've talked about them, Marston and Jung both made mistakes. Marston thought that S and I, and D and C were conscious/unconscious pairs; but Jung's theory disproves that, and proves that the conscious/unconscious pairs are actually S and D, and I and C. Jung believed that some traits were associated with introversion/extroversion; but Marston's theory disproves that, and proves Jung should have been associating those traits with the 4 functions instead.
So now that I'm laying that out there, don't get mad if I say your favorite typology system creator was wrong about something.
>Myth #1: all those gatekept MBTI/Enneagram combos you see. I'm just going to let you read this, for that myth. I think it shows sufficiently that the gatekept combinations are a myth:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Enneagram/comments/1558xxi/what_they_say_on_personality_database_vs_what/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=2&utm_content=1
You will have to copy and paste the link into your browser. Tumblr doesn't like it, for some reason 🙄
>Myth #2: Enneagram to Psychosohpy correlations
This is wrong in 2 ways. First, as I found in my experiment, Enneagram has very little to do with Psychosophy. Also, they say that Psychotypes can have varying dominant instinctual variants, when my experiment proved that Psychotypes can only have 1 dominant instinctual variant per type, however the core can vary
>Myth #3: "The Volition aspect represents extroversion in Psychosophy "
Apparently, this was something Afansayev said, but once again, remember how I said that a lot of the typology creators don't know too much about other typology systems. He obviously didn't know much about Jung's theory, because my experiment showed that the Volition aspect represents Jung's intuition function; not his extroverted attitude
>Myth #4: " Attiduinal Psyche is a watered down version of Psychosophy "
My experiment proved that Attiduinal Psyche is only slightly looser than Psychosophy; that's so that Attiduinal Psyche will type everybody, not just a few. For most types, Attiduinal Psyche only included the Psychotype, plus 1 to 3 other SOJT types that were closely related to the SOJT type of the people with the Psychotype; in my experiment. The only types that expanded beyond 4 SOJT types were the ones where the representative of the Psychotype in Afansayev's book had an ambiverted SOJT type, in which case, the Psychotypes cast a wider net to begin with.
>Myth #5: "VELF is a versatile type that can be any Enneagram or MBTI type"
This is because Rob Zeke has a bias toward the type VELF. In my experiment I found that VELF, just like all but 6 of the 24 AP types, has a very specific set of types that make up over 90% of the cases. MBTI types: ISFJ, ISFP, INFJ and INFP; Enneagram cores: 4, 5, 6 and 9; were nearly 100% of the statistics. Needless to say those MBTI types are part of the S quadrant of DISC, which contains 40% of the human population. *That's* probably why it's so common, not versatility.
By contrast, in my experiment, the 6 Psychotypes represented by ambiverts were the most versatile. Half of them could be 9 of the 17 SOJT type families in the experiment, and most Enneagram cores, as a result. Those were EFLV, FEVL and FLVE. The other 3 could be any of the 17 SOJT type families, or have any of the 9 Enneagram cores. They were: VFEL, FVEL and FLEV. Those are the 3 most flexible types in AP, right there, and VELF is not one of them.
>Myth #6: "If you're having trouble typing someone, they're probably VELF"
Once again, this is Rob Zeke's VELF bias. The reality is, in the experiment I did, I had many people who were hard to type, but none of them were VELF. These were the usual hard-to-type outcomes:
- The person was in the "Undifferentiated Attitude " type family, and had an obviously extroverted or obviously introverted AP type
- The person had an obviously extroverted or introverted SOJT type, and an ambiverted AP type
- The person did not have the stereotypical version of the type, and looked different because of subtypes, other typology systems, etc.
Well, that's it. I'm now going to get back to my Typing In Practice Posts. I hope to complete them all before my wedding, which looks like it will be happening before the year is out.