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JUNGIAN TYPOLOGY POST #15: CAN ANYONE IDENTIFY THIS DIFFERENTIATION PATTERN? I'M SINCERELY ASKING

There is one differentiation pattern that I have so far found for 8 of the 16 types, as I've been trying to figure out which variations of type match up with which results in DISC. When you write it out on paper, it looks like this:

I initially thought it might be undifferentiated auxiliary and short primary, long secondary in the same person. But that doesn't make sense, because in short primary, long secondary; *both* of the auxiliary functions would appear to be more present and noticeable than the dominant function, not just one of them. So I was able to eliminate that option pretty quickly.

Then, I thought it might represent an auxiliary/dominant alternation. Where the auxiliary sometimes alternates with the dominant. When this happens you get an undifferentiated auxiliary situation, and the preferred auxiliary is in action.

I originally thought the 3rd conscious function assumed the role of the preferred auxiliary:

But now I'm beginning to think the usually dominant function assumes that role:

Another thought I've had is that possibly, in these people one of the auxiliaries overtook the dominant at some point in differentiation, and became the dominant function 🤔

Another new thought I came up with was an undifferentiated dominant and inferior function, where they are both undifferentiated in role and attitude

As I said, I'm not sure the meaning of this differentiation pattern, or the mechanics of it, if it has a triggered alternation that takes place.

If you are familiar with Chapter 11 and the differentiation side of SOJT, I would certainly like your input. Thanks

JUNGIAN TYPOLOGY POST #14: WHAT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT DIFFERENTIATION PATTERNS

There are 2 factors involved in typing a person in SOJT. The first, and most important is cognition, and that's why all my Jungian Typology (SOJT) articles prior to this one (except for help in reading Psychological Types Chapter 11) have all been about Chapter 10, where Jung talks about cognition. Chapter 11 is where he talks about differentiation, which is the main contributing factor in why people with the same cognition can be so different.

From those Chapter 11 reading helps, I was able to determine that there are 4 phases to differentiation. We're born in Phase 1, which is where everything is undifferentiated. All of us go through phase 2, and enter phase 3 in our adolescence. In Phase 2 just one function or attitude starts to become more noticeable, and in Phase 3, usually by then, only our attitude or auxiliary is still undifferentiated. Most of us stay in Phase 3 until we die, but some of us move on to Phase 4, which is full differentiation (each function has a clear order and a clear attitude) sometime in our adult years. I know I entered Phase 4, myself, sometime between the ages of 35 and 40. I spent nearly 20 years in Phalse 3!😱 Well, enough of me, let's move on.

Here are some common differentiation patterns you'll see in adults

1. Full differentiation

For this example, I used C S Joseph, who I will soon be doing a Typing In Practice post on. Fully differentiated people are the ones who are extremely easy to type, using life themes. That was how I typed him, and confirmed the typing using DISC:

C S Joseph-ENTJ

2. Short primary/long secondary

For this example, I used Alecia Moore, better known as P!nk. People with Short primary/long secondary are fully differentiated, but to the observer and the tester, their auxiliary function is more noticeable and present than their dominant. Ask them, they'll say their dominant function is their main life theme. It just doesn't look that way in observation or testing

P!nk- ESFP

3. Undifferentiated attitude

Undifferentiated attitude is a common differentiation pattern from Phase 3, that continues, for a lot of people, the rest of their life. It is where the functions have a definite order, but when triggered, they alternate attitudes. For instance, Alicia Keys, who's normally Si Fi, alternates with Se Fe when she gets excited. When she calms down she returns to Si Fi (and her unconscious pole functions follow the trend as well):

Alicia Keys-ISFP

4. Undifferentiated auxiliary

This is another common Phase 3 differentiation pattern that stays with many of us for life. It's where both a person's auxiliaries are conscious, and they alternate between auxiliaries when triggered. For instance, when Marshall Mathers writes rhymes for his raps, his less preferred Ne auxiliary gets triggered, and when he stops writing, it's back to Se again:

Marshall Mathers-ESFJ

Those are all the differentiation patterns I've encountered in adults that I understand. There's one that I've discovered, but I'm not sure exactly what it represents, and what the mechanism is. It's going to be the post immediately after this one.

JUNGIAN TYPOLOGY POST #10: DEGREES OF DIFFERENTIATION, AND HOW OFTEN DIFFERENT ATTITUDES ARE ACCESSED

There's a lot of improper teaching going on about this concept. There's even a Jung MBTI blogger teaching it as an 8 function model, so I figured this needed to be cleared up.

Not everyone is fully differentiated, as we are finding out through my blog. Fully differentiated people are a *minority* in humankind. The *majority* of people are undifferentiated in at least one way, if not multiple ways. Vendrah talks about that here:

As I mentioned in DISC post 2 and True Types Dynamics post 2, SOJT has 141 types, and DISC accounts for at least 5 of these SOJT types per DISC profile, if not more. The 5 SOJT types each DISC profile contains are:

A fully differentiated type,

A short dominant/long auxiliary type,

An undifferentiated auxiliary function type,

An undifferentiated attitude type

and an undifferentiated dominant and inferior

The top 2 SOJT types listed are "fully differentiated " (in differentiation Phase 4). That term, in a nutshell, means that the person has discovered themselves, and know exactly who they are. In those cases, there is a definite preferred attitude for each function. Under various circumstances, a fully differentiated person will exhibit the attitude opposite of their preferred one, but they have a definite preferred attitude for their conscious, which should be easy for outsiders to observe.

The latter 3 patterns, however, are Phase 3 differentiation patterns. People in Phase 3 are still trying to learn about themselves. Therefore, they might not have an obvious attitude preference on 2 or more functions. They will be going back and forth between the attitudes much more frequently than the Phase 4 (fully differentiated) type would do. The people in this phase of differentiation represent the majority of adults. This is what makes it hard to type these people correctly in the MBTI.

Therefore, if you are one of the vast majority of people, and in Phase 3 of differentiation, my best advice is this: When learning about access to the opposite attitude, don't try to apply the concept to yourself, but rather to an imaginary fully differentiated person in your head.

The reality is, most of us will *not* have definite preferred attitudes on all our functions. It's just that using a fully differentiated person as the foundation makes the concept easier to learn. We just have to keep in mind, though, that the numbers of functions with a definite preferred attitude don't apply to everyone

DISC POST #7: CONSCIOUS/UNCONSCIOUS AND DIFFERENTIATION ARE ACTUALLY MARSTON'S THEORIES

Well, guess what, everyone! I was able to obtain a bootlegged download of Marston's book, "The Emotions of Normal People". I did a quick read through, to look at the main topics of the book, etc. I'm going to go back and read it in more detail, and then when I'm done with my more detailed read, I will post a book review, like I did for Gifts Differing.

But even from my quick survey read of the book, I was able to discern that conscious/unconscious and differentiation are actually Marston's theories, not Jung's.

The first half of the book completely talks about how all people have a conscious and unconscious that dictate their thoughts and behavior. It even gives a neurological basis for the existence of a conscious and unconscious. Marston talks about case studies he did on thousands of people in prisons and schools regarding the existence of the conscious and unconscious. He mentions that if someone's conscious is [extroverted], their unconscious will be [ introverted], and that if someone's conscious is [introverted], their unconscious will be [extroverted]. He also mentions that anything we don't like about a person's behavior comes from their unconscious.

At the point he wrote the book, Marston believed that D and C were conscious/unconscious pairs , as were I and S. We now know that that's wrong, and the conscious/unconscious pairs are actually D and S, and I and C. However, everything else Marston had to say about the conscious/unconscious was very accurate and true to what is known today.

In the second half of his book, he focuses more on his case studies he conducted in schools. He followed the children in the case studies from the beginning of elementary school to the end of high school, and he paid close attention to their development of Dominance, Inducement (as he calls it in the book), Submission (as he calls it in the book), and Compliance. He notes specific age groups when particular traits seem to be developing more (like Dominance in adolescent boys). He suggests that once the adolescence period is over, that we tend to have one pattern that is clearly our highest, but throughout youth and adolescence, our highest pattern is more at the mercy of our gender and age, and not so much our conscious and unconscious. Boy, that sounds kind of like a conversation about differentiation, doesn't it? Yep, I'd have to say differentiation was Marston's theory as well.

Now, notice how in Psychological Types, Jung mentioned the conscious/unconscious and differentiation, but he never went into detail about them. Well, now we know why. They were not his theories! And being as Jung was an INTJ/ High C, and High C's are all about doing the right thing, he probably didn't want to reveal too much about his friend, William Marston's research before Marston went public with it. The fact that Jung didn't say too much or go into detail, was so that his friend William Marston could get credit for his discoveries and research in the end, and not Jung. Gee, that sounds very much like Compliance in action. Good job, Jung, of being Compliant.

Anyway, in summary, I thought it was interesting to see how the concepts of conscious/unconscious and differentiation actually originated in DISC, and Jung brought them over into his theory. Well, remember how I said I was not not sure exactly where Marston was in Jungian typology, but that he was probably just as present there as Jung was in DISC? Well, now we know where Marston is in Jungian typology-in the theories of conscious/unconscious and differentiation 😉👍

JUNGIAN TYPOLOGY POST #5: RESOURCES FOR EASIER READING OF CHAPTER 11 OF PSYCHOLOGICAL TYPES

There are some very important topics covered in Chapter 11 of Psychological Types, that people don't know much about, because they only read Chapter 10.

Probably the most important topic covered in Chapter 11 is the differentiation of the functions. It talks about many different stages of differentiation, including stage 4 (full differentiation), and what the functions look like in those different stages. It is Chapter 11, where Jung very highly suggests, if not explicitly says, that the function order for stage 4 is eeii for extroverts and iiee for introverts. Also in this chapter, we get an introduction to Jung's 141 types! Yes, he had 141 of them. Not just the 16 we've grown accustomed to.

I know, personally, because of my brain injury and dyslexia, I have a hard time reading Jung, unless I'm reading a children's version, like I had back in the day, of Man And His Symbols.

So, I have found reading Jung on other people's blogs, with them explaining it, to be helpful. Here's 3 really good blog articles I found, that helped Chapter 11 of Psychological Types to make sense to me:

I hope these articles help you to be able to understand those very vital concepts in Jung's Chapter 11, and that you can grow in your knowledge of what Jung wanted the functions to be like, and the many different types he had. I explore 57 of the 141 types in my "True Types " section of the blog, if you want to see examples of some of Jung's 141 types. Happy typing!