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The podcast by, for, and about fandom, hosted by Flourish Klink & Elizabeth Minkel. For episodes, articles, projects, and more, please visit fansplaining.com.
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Episode 222: Ask Fansplaining Anything: Part 19

Flourish’s final “Ask Fansplaining Anything” episode follows the format of the previous 18 (!!), with a new batch of (thoughtful as ever!) listener letters and voicemails. Topics discussed include people bringing a prior adaptation’s fandom baggage to a new version, writing RPF about people who aren’t actually famous at all, the tropification of fanfiction, and whether multiple versions of a character can feel true simultaneously.

It's totally wild to me that we've been able to do 19 of these in the past ~5 years—not to mention the many listener letters/voicemails that have prompted entire episodes, or the ones we've read during non-AFAs. We truly have the smartest, most thoughtful listeners. 😭

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Episode 222: Ask Fansplaining Anything: Part 19

Flourish’s final “Ask Fansplaining Anything” episode follows the format of the previous 18 (!!), with a new batch of (thoughtful as ever!) listener letters and voicemails. Topics discussed include people bringing a prior adaptation’s fandom baggage to a new version, writing RPF about people who aren’t actually famous at all, the tropification of fanfiction, and whether multiple versions of a character can feel true simultaneously.

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I think that writing these types of stories is a lot more difficult, doing it well is a lot more difficult than most of these authors realize. … I don’t mean that they were bad, I mean that they had ‘slip-ups,’ right? So they might set up the story to intimate to the reader, ‘This is a story that you can fully insert yourself into, that you can be the character, I will not give any kind of descriptive language, I’m making it your story.’ But they would then have a slip-up that they wouldn’t notice, where they would maybe say, ‘His white chest,’ or ‘her curly hair.’ And suddenly the reader, who was supposed to put themselves in there, is like, knocked out of it by this kind of language. … So you’re invited to be this blank-slate character. But then, because it’s a difficult thing to do, some word is in there that throws you out of it, and it could be in a really kind of violent way.”

— Fan studies scholar Effie Sapuridis discussing her research on self-insert fic (particularly the "blank slate" formats aka y/n or reader x character) on the most recent episode of the podcast. Click through to listen to the whole interview or read a full transcript!

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Episode 221: Self-Inserts

On Episode 221, “Self-Inserts,” Elizabeth and Flourish welcome fan studies scholar Effie Sapuridis to talk about the wide world of self-inserts, including Y/N and x reader fic, imagines, shifting, and classic Mary Sues. Topics discussed include differences between platforms, including AO3, Wattpad, Tumblr, and especially TikTok; ties to things like roleplaying, LARPing, and theme parks; and whether self-insert forms are leading us towards a future of ~personalized AI storytelling~. Plus: they talk about why there’s so little academic work on self-inserts, and the ethical issues around continuing to study the Harry Potter fandom.

Effie was SUCH a wonderful final guest for what I'm dubbing The Flourish Era of Fansplaining. 😭 You'll note the 9,000 things I listed in the blurb—self-inserts really do connect to such a huge range of fannish (and more broadly affective) behaviors and interests, and I can't wait to follow Effie's work on this stuff in the coming years.

(Also definitely recommend clicking through to the show notes to watch those TikToks....wild to compare what young fan creators are doing today, publicly with their own faces, vs Back In My Day lol)

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Episode 221: Self-Inserts

On Episode 221, “Self-Inserts,” Elizabeth and Flourish welcome fan studies scholar Effie Sapuridis to talk about the wide world of self-inserts, including Y/N and x reader fic, imagines, shifting, and classic Mary Sues. Topics discussed include differences between platforms, including AO3, Wattpad, Tumblr, and especially TikTok; ties to things like roleplaying, LARPing, and theme parks; and whether self-insert forms are leading us towards a future of ~personalized AI storytelling~. Plus: they talk about why there’s so little academic work on self-inserts, and the ethical issues around continuing to study the Harry Potter fandom.

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Episode 219: Tropefest Speedrun

Episode 219, “Tropefest Speedrun,” kicks off with a big announcement: as you might have guessed with Flourish a few months away from a) giving birth and b) being ordained as a priest, they are going to be leaving Fansplaining in May. Post-Flourish plans for the podcast still TBD, this episode builds off the long-running “Tropefest” series for Patrons and jets through ten fanfiction tropes and themes in an hour, including classics like time loops, identity porn, truth serum, and sex pollen.

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I'm looking for this long post where someone asked what they learned as a result of writing fanfic. (Not the grilled cheese one, I have the grilled cheese one.) I need it for a paper, and I can't find it. I know it was from Tumblr because it got reblogged a lot. @transformativeworks @fansplaining Someone help me please?

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This is not ringing a bell—can anyone help out?

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Episode 218: The Money Question 3: Books???

Following previous installments on the thorny intersections of money and fanfiction, Episode 218, “The Money Question 3: Books???” tackles the recent debacle around people illegally selling bound copies of others’ fic, which has mostly centered on mega-popular Dramione works. Jumping off from Elizabeth’s WIRED article on the subject—which ties the practice to the current pull-to-publish wave as well as the Twilight fan-run presses of the early 2010s—Elizabeth and Flourish discuss the context collapse when a fic “breaches containment,” double standards in attitudes towards money and various fan practices, and, for likely the 1,000th time on this podcast, what exactly “fair use” means. 

You knew we were gonna discuss it—and of course this one ran super long lol. It was so helpful to talk this through with @flourish, who has a ton of historical knowledge in this realm (threatened by Warner Bros. as a pre-teen!) and, in their previous life working in Hollywood, has been in the room with the rights holders who are looking at monetized fanworks and taking...a variety of stances.

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Episode 218: The Money Question 3: Books???

Following previous installments on the thorny intersections of money and fanfiction, Episode 218, “The Money Question 3: Books???” tackles the recent debacle around people illegally selling bound copies of others’ fic, which has mostly centered on mega-popular Dramione works. Jumping off from Elizabeth’s WIRED article on the subject—which ties the practice to the current pull-to-publish wave as well as the Twilight fan-run presses of the early 2010s—Elizabeth and Flourish discuss the context collapse when a fic “breaches containment,” double standards in attitudes towards money and various fan practices, and, for likely the 1,000th time on this podcast, what exactly “fair use” means. 

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Renegade is very interested in the gift economy, and so we bind because we love fic and we love the stories that were made for us and we know that they were made out of the kindness of someone's heart and the love and the passion that they feel for that thing, and they're not making money, and they're spending all of their time, and we wanna find a way to say 'I love this thing, I also love physical books, and so I wanna keep it." But also it's a way of kind of giving that back, right? You know, you write fic for each other...this is just, to us, another way of expressing that...this is really important and we think it's both valid as a form of media and literature, and also it's a way we can show that to especially the author. Right? We can say, "Hey, this was important enough that I wanted to make it."

— on our most recent episode, we talked to @fanboundbooks about fanbinding and the @renegadeguild. Click through to listen or read a full transcript!

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Earlier this week I reported on the very depressing for-profit fic pirating happening in certain corners of fandom—but (somewhat coincidentally, timing-wise) I also had the joy of reporting this story on fanbinding, and the work of the @renegadeguild! Featuring the words (and fanbinds) of the brilliant @celestial-sphere-press, @butterfingersbookbinding, and @fanboundbooks (who also talked about Renegade on the most recent Fansplaining episode).

Renegade's binders are strong proponents of the non-monetized gift economy—they truly embody the spirit of fanfiction, in my opinion, both in the communal way they share their work with fic writers and each other, and in the DIY way they approach making books:

There’s a strong parallel between the amateur, instinctive nature of fanfiction and the act of fanbinding. While plenty of fic is penned by formally trained writers, much of it is not. Tiffo, who binds as Fanboundbooks, likens the reverse-engineering involved in teaching oneself both activities. As writers, people try to figure out why stories work. Fanbinders collectively share the process of learning to turn that work into a physical object—tactile, clean, often beautiful. Fic is largely unencumbered by the forms and structures of traditional publishing, and fanbinders approach their work with the same spirit. “People will often say, ‘How do I do this?’ or ‘What’s the rule for this?’” Tiffo says. “The answer that we always try to throw in Renegade is, ‘This is what other people have done, but know that there is no rule to your book—you can make whatever you want.’”

It's a shame seeing people conflate the bad actors of the pirating situation—many of whom don't appear to be in fandom and seem motivated by pure profit—with the work of fanbinders at large, and seeing people scared to try out fanbinding because of the recent news. Not-for-profit fanbinding is just as legal as writing fanfiction, and I don't speak for all fic writers, but if someone ever bound one of my fics, I'd be so touched I would almost definitely weep. 😭

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As promised! I wrote about the illegal fanbinding that's led to writers deleting their works recently, how that connects to the current pull-to-publish wave, and what happens when the rapidly expanding sphere of fic readers starts to get disconnected from *fandom*:

The ever-increasing reach of fanfiction has inched the practice away from text-written-in-community to a more traditional author-reader relationship—and the context collapse that’s come with viral works being treated like any other romance novel has spurred clashes between different types of readers with different sets of expectations. In the past few years, fic authors across all corners of fandom have increasingly complained about shifting attitudes from readers who treat them like any other content creator, demanding the next chapter as you might demand your favorite influencer’s next video. But unlike on creative platforms like TikTok and YouTube, the fic writer doesn’t get revenue from their new installment.

We'll also talk about this in some capacity on the next episode of @fansplaining! (In contrast with today's episode, on the non-monetized, gift-economy practices of many fanbinders, whose hobby is also imperiled by the people selling and buying fic.)

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Episode 217: Fanbinding

On Episode 217, “Fanbinding,” Elizabeth and Flourish talk to Tiffo (aka Fanboundbooks) about the art of turning fanfiction into physical books, and the fanbinding collective known as the Renegade Bindery (@renegadeguild). Topics discussed include how exactly you make a book, Renegade’s origin story and huge growth in recent years, fanbinders’ firm commitment to the non-monetized gift economy, and Binderary, a month-long event this February with challenges, fan-run classes, and more. Plus! (Spoiler) Flourish literally joins the Renegade Discord during the recording session.

It was such a delight to have Tiffo on to talk about fanbinding and Renegade! I also have two articles on fanbinding coming out this week, which I will post on here when they're live:

  • One on Renegade itself (featuring Tiffo and a few other binders)
  • One on the illegal selling of bound fics sweeping through Dramione in particular

I'm already seeing comments about this episode conflating the two, which is a bummer—Renegade and the vast majority of fanbinders I've seen are the strongest adherents to the non-monetized gift economy I've ever encountered in fandom. It would be a shame if people allowed the actions of bad actors (many of whom don't seem to be in fandom at all) color a practice like fanbinding.

We've now received multiple emails about the illegal fic-selling situation happening in parallel to gift-economy fanbiding and just as an FYI, we'll address it in the next episode in some capacity!

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Episode 217: Fanbinding

On Episode 217, “Fanbinding,” Elizabeth and Flourish talk to Tiffo (aka Fanboundbooks) about the art of turning fanfiction into physical books, and the fanbinding collective known as the Renegade Bindery (@renegadeguild). Topics discussed include how exactly you make a book, Renegade’s origin story and huge growth in recent years, fanbinders’ firm commitment to the non-monetized gift economy, and Binderary, a month-long event this February with challenges, fan-run classes, and more. Plus! (Spoiler) Flourish literally joins the Renegade Discord during the recording session.

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