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Thinking about 'jumping on points' for Waterloo Road. With returning and new fans I'm wondering if there's a way to catchup on the show like with Doctor Who:

Series 1 ✅

Well... yes! It's the start of the show and you can't beat the iconic opening seen so yh new fans should and could start here

Series 2 ❌

Not really? Directly continues the Tom/Lorna/Izzie storyline. The Brett stuff could work in isolation but still makes more sense to start from s1

Series 3 ❌

Nope. Continued Donte, Mika, Brett, Chlo, Tom and Davina arcs from s1/2 so you'd prolly be lost. You could start from Rachel's intro because this is also the start of the Rachel Mason era but then you'd have to understand the context of the other teachers. Bolton, Paul, Michaela etc join this season too so maybe but with the amount of storylines directly continued from the previous seasons... prolly not.

Series 4 ⛔

Maybe? The Donte and Chlo storyline and Kim and Andrew's return again works better with the s1 context. But, the Kelly family arc does start here and you could watch that without previous season's context. Not really sure.

Series 5 ✅

Yup! I watched the show from here and it made sense. The John Foster's arc is one of the best from this show and there's a lot of new characters in this season so its a great watch. The only downside is this is the end of the 'Mason era' and honestly this series hits different when you see these characters grow from s3.

Series 6 ✅

Yes. Start of the 'Fisher era' so not a lot of previous context is needed. Only downside is the Josh, Finn, Amy, Lauren era starts from s3-s5 so to see their full growth maybe not put if that's not a concern then go ahead.

Series 7 ✅

Yes again especially because it's broken up. 7a (episodes 1-10) is the 'Fisher era' post all the Bex stuff from s6 so you can start there. Or, you start from 7b (11-30) which is the Byrne era which has brand new characters and doesn't use a lot of previous seasons context. Grantly and Tom's storylines however is another situation of 'watching all the previous seasons makes this feel more emotional' but again if this isn't that deep you might as well. This is also the end of the OG Rochdale era so again, starting earlier makes the experience more enjoyable but this is subjective.

Series 8 ✅⛔

Yes... but for the wrong reasons. Mainly ignores a large chunk of s7 despite being a direct continuation. This is the Scotland era which most fans dislike because the working class Rochdale roots are gone by this point. You don't need context to understand the Scotland character's arcs including Rhiannon (she's a Rochdale character but not in s7...?). The weaker story is also behind from this season too so you can art here but it wouldn't be an authentic representation of the show IMO. Plus season 11+ continues from the Rochdale era. It's unclear whether or not the events from S8-10 are canon but unaddressed or if the show has retconned it so if you choose to start here its unlikely you'll need this to understand s11+. On a technical level yes, but I personally wouldn't recommend it.

Series 9 ✅⛔

Same as s8. Large chunks of previous season were ignored so not a lot of previous context is needed and new character storylines but again, not really ideal.

Series 10 ✅

Same as s8-9. Some underrated characters this season however like Justin and Dale so if you don't mind 1 season storylines go ahead.

Series 11 ✅

Yes. As the reboot season it does a decent job at catching up the Rochdale era. Also if you're tuning in for Preston x Kai this season is the beginning of their story so yes it's essential for the shippers!

Series 12 ❌

Seasons 11-13 are one big arc so not really. Just like s1 it makes sense to just start at the beginning

Series 13 ❌

Nope. Season 12 context is needed for this and to get season 12 you need to watch season 11. These seasons are the shortest of the show only 7 episodes long so its worth starting at the beginning.

These are just my thoughts this is not a definite guide to Waterloo Road! S1, S5, S6, and S7 for me personally are the best ways to start the show but you can do whatever you want!

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It is absolutely fascinating how much of the internet is people claiming things that are completely untrue and using logical fallacies, sometimes actual propaganda tactics (ie the truth is unknowable, you must give everyone the benefit of the doubt at all times defense), and zero evidence to do it

Saw someone claim that people are saying non-Black people who don’t listen to rap are racist. I would love it if non-Black people would learn the phrase, “I don’t know enough about that subject to speak about it” because that’s not what’s happening.

Basically people came into a conversation and thought, “Well, I’m not racist and I don’t like rap so I think people who agree with me should be given the benefit of the doubt—after all, they are Good White People, like me [yes most of these people are white]”

When what’s actually happening is a bunch of things. One: a large number of non-Black people are coming into spaces talking about rap talking about how they don’t listen to rap.

Of those, a lot of people are saying that they don’t like rap for racist stereotype reasons. “I don’t like violence, I don’t like sex in my music” then unironically talking about their favourite metal bands—in specific spaces meant to discuss rap.

A lot of people (and heavily overlapping with the first group) are using rap as a pejorative for all Black music and all Black artists. I’ve seen people referencing LOTS of non-rap artists as representation of rap, for some reason???? This is what I mean by giving non-Black people the benefit of the doubt [because you agree with them].

Okay and thirdly: this is what they’re not doing. So the person I saw was saying that since Black artists can be in any genre, not liking rap [and being very loud about it] is not necessarily racist. None of the people I saw naming art named a single Black artist.

Not.

One.

The only names I saw were Hozier, whatever metal band of the week is popular, and maybe Taylor Swift.

These people were not naming Luther Vandross, Beyonce, Ice Spice, Stevie Wonder, Poly Styrene, Ice-T, Jimi Hendrix, or Slash. They were specifically naming white artists in a conversation about Black rap.

Some of them had the nerve to name Macklemore. How is that not racist?

And before writing the posts defending them coming into a pro-Black space with this white-centering nonsense did you not see it? Or did you not want to?

Maybe you should’ve just let this iceberg glide by.

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I'm not sure what the point in yelling 'canon doesn't matter' from the hilltops was then proceeding to make several lore-based seasons back to back. The Doctor was already a unique, lone wolf without a family-type character before the Timeless Child. Regeneration was already a way of letting go of the past long before bigeneration turned up. Gallifrey's been gone for a while. S11+ relies on the Time War, The Timeless Child, the regeneration cycle, the Master and old companions but if you critique any of this *you're* the lore obsessed one? Abeg... Like I'm not a s11 fan at all but honestly it did a better job at the 'i have no one' thing Chibnall wanted than s12/13 and s1 already did that too so idk what's so revolutionary and fresh about the show doing what it did before in a different font. "We don't know where the Doctor's from! We don't know their family!"... just like the past 60 years then lol? If lore doesn't matter so bad... why can't we just ignore it? They're a weirdo in a box that's all we ever needed!

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tim-official

the current trend of "tumblr users embarrassing themselves by proudly announcing why they don't listen to any music made by black people" is really astounding.

i cannot help but think this is a direct result of liberal White Guilt and how people have interpreted "anti-racism" as form of cultural self-segregation - the kind of person who thinks trying to cook chicken curry is cultural appropriation, or sends white people anon hate for wearing a kimono (yes, this kind of discourse happened). like, "oh, no, i could never participate in this culture, i'd get my evil white hands all over it! it would be more Progressive if I only did White things."

if you're a poc you've seen this, i'm sure - this deer-in-the-headlights stare you can get from white people when you play music / show art / share a story / anything that is Racially Coded, this total refusal to actually engage with it out of fear that it is in some way Wrong for them to have any opinion on it. because they read somewhere that it's bad to use AAVE but the only lesson they actually learned from that is "gotcha, white people are not allowed to interact with other cultures as punishment for my White Crimes. this helps to fill up the gaping pit of my white guilt and makes me one of the Good People." this transforms their discomfort around non-white cultures (black culture, especially, i should add) into a kind of virtue

anyway if you are white and reading this. go listen to some fucking haliu mergia. ethiopian jazz. will knock your dick right off. go listen to rap or reggae or bollywood and have a genuine reaction to it - like, an actual, from-the-heart reaction. you are allowed to not like some of it. but you will definitely like at least a little. yes, you can compare it to lemon demon (or whatever) if that helps you get into it and that's your only point of reference. maybe don't say that part out loud. but don't, like, separate yourself from it, like you are seeing it in a museum and the only polite thing to do is go "ahh, huh, very interesting, so much culture here."

I did not write this nearly scolding enough.

I am disappointed that so many people reblogging this seem to have gotten the milquetoast message "appreciation is not appropriation! promote artists of color!" instead of what I'm actually trying to communicate, which is "a lot of people who call themselves well-meaning liberals are actually deeply uncomfortable around people of color and other cultures in general, so they frame their avoidance as a kind of respect so they can keep their own self-image consistent." I am not saying "aw, they mean well."

could've written it better but oh well! too late

The cultural appropriation discussions on Black culture lead by Black Americans specifically clearly state the issue comes from the profiting off of Black culture like hip hop, rap, AAVE, streetwear etc. whilst its creators are ignored at best and blatantly discriminated against at worst for participating in the same practices. If the main takeaway from those discussions was 'white people should never do anything that involves Black people ever' you either need to reread or unpack your own antiblackness as to why you think Black Americans are responsible for the current anti-hip hop moral panic because they weren't nice enough instead of y'know... the anti black capitalism but okay...?

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One minute this is the puritan bad something something fuck fascist censorship something authors don't support the dark themes they write about something let creatives do dark shit website, the next rap and hip-hop are promoting violence and sex which are bad regardless of context now and no rap song in history has ever commented on anything else and all rap is the exact same with no sub categories and there's 0 rappers that are queer and/or women apparently. Whenever there's an online discourse about media and people throw around 'nuance' 'grace' 'not everything's black and white' I take it with a pinch of salt and this is why. Ts & Cs truly do apply!

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**clears throat**

S3 Ten leads Martha on

Exhibit A:

DOCTOR: Just one trip to say thanks. You get one trip, then back home. I'd rather be on my own. MARTHA: You're the one that kissed me. DOCTOR: That was a genetic transfer. MARTHA: And if you will wear a tight suit. DOCTOR: Now, don't! MARTHA: And then travel all the way across the universe just to ask me on a date. DOCTOR: Stop it.

(Smith and Jones)

Exhibit B: "We can all have a good flirt later" (The Shakespeare Code)

Exhibit C: "Yeah, well you can kiss me later" (Daleks in Manhattan)

These are just a few examples. But, what's a girl to think when he does and says things like this. The thing is, I'm not 100% sure the Doctor immediately realises the effect he has on his companions. He thinks his flirting is harmless but it means more to humans. Plus, he has chemistry with Martha and, subconsciously or not, recognises she is an attractive woman. In conclusion, GENETIC TRANSFER, MY FOOT!

Further to my post above, I was thinking about that boyfriend conversation between Twelve and Clara. It would also work between Ten and Martha. "I'm not your boyfriend" "I never said you were" "I didn't say it was your mistake". I would love it if someone could gif that.

Tagging: @leikeliscomet @cosmic-day and anyone else who thinks Ten leads Martha Jones on

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I can't believe in the lord's year of 2024 people genuinely think 'Ten didn't lead Martha on and Martha is to blame' is an unpopular opinion. Like I would love to see what alt timeline existed when the fandom collectively stood behind Martha over Ten and he became the least popular incarnation in the show. Everyone keeps posting the same 'both sides were wrong' takes in the discourse but the minute we actually unpack Ten's side in question suddenly it's 'attacking' 'demonising' 'cancelling'. Everyone loves to cry about nuance and grace and yet accusing Martha of being a predator, sexually manipulative and controlling is perfectly acceptable bc you lot are only willing to explore moral complexities with white characters. Nah it will always be incredibly gross to me that after a decade of racism towards her the minute the fandom actually starts to unpack the misogynoir and actually empathise with Martha for once and has the audacity to criticise anything Ten does, his stans paint the narrative that Martha is the aggressor and her stans hold the dominant position in the fandom and by perpetrating misogynoir they are fighting the good fight against the mainstream narrative when they've been the popular majority since 2006 I've had enoughhhh

EDIT: I've already made a post like this but ah well if we're gonna do up old discourse I'll bring up the old debunking arguments

Thank you for talking about this because it is so frustrating and annoying. I just can't understand why people blame Martha and paint her as the aggressor (like did we watch the same thing). I don't care if people like Ten because I understand why, and I understand if you didn't like the storyline of Martha being in love with The Doctor (Even though it wasn't as bad as people claim and was brought up in maybe three episodes)

However, step outside that thinking and truly look at Tens actions. Before I even started watching Doctor Who, I had no idea that Martha Jones was even his companion. I knew about Rose and Donna, but people have forgotten her and made her out to be the worse, and the problem, and when I finally watched her series, I was extremely confused by what people were saying because her being the aggressor and the problem and the one to blame wasn't true at all!

Having to constantly defend Martha Jones is exhausting, they'll see everything that Martha had to go through and ignore it or say that it's her fault. Just because we unpack and talk about Ten’s awful treatment of Martha doesn't mean you're not allowed to like Ten and I'm not attacking you personally for liking Ten either; I'm simply pointing out the blatant problems and racism.

Nuance is very important also because, as I criticize, Ten doesn't also mean I don't think that Martha shouldn't get her own doctor; I actually find it unfair that Martha does not have her own doctor like Rose and Donna. People forget that Martha still does actually care for and like The Doctor that's why she made sure she had a way to keep in touch with him and even told Jack she did miss traveling with him but had made her decision.

In so many fandoms I'm in, I constantly see this and how characters who are black women (specifically in this case, but women of color in general in the fandoms I’m in) are constantly misunderstood, especially their feelings about certain things, like how many times do I have to point to the truth before you understand.   

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The Eurovision song contest is facing intense scrunity and accusations of discrimination after it rebuked Swedish-Palestinian pop star Eric Saade for wearing a Palestinian scarf in the opening act of the semi-finals. Saade, whose father is of Palestinian origin, kicked off the first semi-final of the Eurovision Song Contest in Malmo, Sweden on Tuesday evening with a keffiyeh, a traditional Palestinian and Arab male headdress, wrapped around his wrist. [...] In response, the organisers of the contest, European Broadcasting Union (EBU) released a statement saying it "regretted" that Saade wore the scarf. "The Eurovision Song Contest is a live TV show. All performers are made aware of the rules of the contest, and we regret that Eric Saade chose to compromise the non-political nature of the event," it said. [...] Eurovision later posted clips of the performances of the other two opening acts on its social media pages, but did not share Saade’s, prompting social media users to share the performance on their personal pages to show support for the artist.

Waving Palestinian flags, wearing traditional Palestinian garments, or if we're being honest, just being Palestinian, is now officially "too political" for Eurovision.

Literally, all Saade did was wear a keffiyeh around his wrist—while being Palestinian—and that was enough to get a statement from the EBU, and have his opening performance scrubbed from Youtube.

If you're not already boycotting Eurovision this year, then what the fuck is wrong with you?

Below are two statements from Saade. The first one, giving his reason for participating, was posted a few days ago, and the other was in response to the EBU accusing him of 'compromising the non-political nature' of the Genocide Song Contest:

Reminder again to BOYCOTT EUROVISION 🇵🇸

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beetlehorn

im not racist i just have made broad generalizations and assumptions about black people and art without bothering to even look into it first - but ill still present my assumptions as correct. im not racist its just that my opinions on black art coincide with antiblack opinions - that black people are misogynistic and violent and enjoy it. im not racist its just that when this is pointed out to me instead of examining it i double down on opinions ive never bothered to check against the culture ive made assumptions about - im not racist, i just have never interacted with black art before but simultaneously i am confident that it is all misogynistic, all vile. i am not racist. i just dont like rap

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asuni-m

Do you think, in Journey’s End, when Martha threatens to blow up the Earth to stop the Daleks, the Tenth Doctor has a flashback to him destroying Gallifrey?

And how Davros says The Doctor turns ordinary people into soldiers, he realizes it’s true. Because The Doctor was an ordinary person turned into a soldier and he did destroy is own planet to stop the Daleks. And Martha was going to follow in his path. A path he created first.

Do you think he saw himself in Martha? And all the things he’s ever done? All the deaths he caused? How, the only other planet he’s ever called home, was going to be destroyed by him, again?

How it was going to happen all over again, all because of him?

Cause I do.

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