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callese

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skyvoice

you know what. i am physically sick as hell this week so i'll bite. i read the original slate article, which is free to read so i don't know why OP chose to screenshot instead of let people draw their own conclusions. i agree with MANY of the writer's points on the need for comprehensive criminal justice reform, but i also care a lot about numbers and stats and increasingly, this bullshit "democrats are the same as republicans" messaging is straight-up delivered using propaganda tactics

this is going to be an incredibly long post and i had to use GOOGLE SLIDES and GOOGLE SHEETS which i hate so so much so in the words of twitter kpop stans please don't let this flop

let's look at the numbers, claim by claim

claim #1: "the number of people held in ICE detention has increased by 70 percent since Biden took office"

  • if you click through 3 link layers from the slate you land at cbs as the source for this which tells you that mainstream media is certainly not immune to playing with stats to make the democrats look bad
  • fortunately ICE detention stats are easily publicly available thanks to the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse, which does the lord's work of crawling through federal agency publications and submitting tedious FOIA requests to collate useful data
  • here is the data -- not only was cbs not wrong about the total number of detainees at the time of publication (25k in aug 2021), but the increase from when biden was inaugurated is actually 90%, not 70%. look:
  • well holy shit!!! that's terrible. biden is the worst and he hates immigration reform and the democrats are no different from trump, right?
  • but if you zoom out
  • actually, Jan/Feb 2021 was at the absolute low for detainees, after a full year of covid restrictions slowing down or minimizing gov't operations of all kinds AND reducing border volume
  • and if you actually want to compare the biden admin to the trump admin?
  • relative to Aug of 2019, after 18 months the biden admin has reached a 56% decrease in the number of detainees. even if you look at only the month before COVID lockdowns really hit, it's still nearly a 40% decrease
  • and to put the total numbers in perspective, at NO point before COVID did the trump admin have fewer than 30k people in ICE detention. most of the time it was well above 40k, or about 2x more than under biden
  • that's not to say that immigration reform isn't still needed, but it IS to say that myopically comparing current-state to january 2021, aka one of the WEIRDEST months statistically on record ever, is going to give you crap perspective

claim #2: "the federal prison population has grown for the first time in a decade"

  • (note i've only included data from 2005 onward so it's easier to actually see what's going on in the last 10 years. for those who like math, these are CAGRs calculated over each presidential term)
  • but there it is -- decline in populations accelerated under trump. surely both parties same. surely democrats actually worse than republicans
  • but wait, what's that?
  • that can't be ...
  • SPIDERS GEORG????
  • WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE
  • ARE YOU SAYING THAT ... THERE IS AN OUTLIER?
  • THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN COUNTED?
  • now that assumes trump wasn't successful at slowing down the momentum from the obama years
  • this is what it might have looked like had we perhaps ended up with a second trump term:
  • again this isn't to say that biden is pure and perfect on criminal justice, even if there were some agreed-upon definition of what pure and perfect legislative or policy priorities would look like
  • it's to put the context back into place around the data
  • are the democrats and republicans actually the same or are we being fed a diet of pruned stats and catchphrases to make us simultaneously angry and disempowered

last claim: "federal covid relief funds are being used to pad local police budgets"

SO all of that to say

  • we don't stop pushing for immigration or criminal justice reform
  • or any other reform that is sorely needed
  • but using data in incredibly selective ways, out of context, to promote a narrative that somehow democrats are the same or even worse than republicans
  • ESPECIALLY the republicans of today
  • is literally propaganda
  • propaganda by definition uses kernels of truth and then presents it in a biased way to attempt to push a narrative
  • pretending that the democrats are exactly the same as the republicans is propaganda, and i'm like 80% sure it's right-wing propaganda designed to discourage left-wing turnout that has somehow been accepted by an online population that doesn't understand statistics
  • so like
  • understand statistics
  • do a bit of research
  • draw conclusions that you can back up
  • and for fuck's sake, vote
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biglawbear

God thank you so much for this detail. I knew OP was bullshit but didn't have the time or energy for this level of clap back. Bless.

The left is not immune to propaganda. If you see something that enrages you... Maybe read the article? Do your own research? Don't just believe everything you read on Tumblr?

Also OP literally just copies tweets that make it seem like Democrats Are Bad with no context. Which, in 2016, was a Russian psyop play. It's helpful to know what agenda someone has when they post things.

I love how Spiders Georg has become a standard illustrative example for why outliers matter and can lead to misleading statistics.

As my Grandma always said, “Figures don’t lie, but liars can figure.”

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